FREE KRAUT! » Is Braden the worst pitcher with a perfect game?

Is Braden the worst pitcher with a perfect game?

This arose out of a set of emails at work, and I figured I’d post it here since I hadn’t really thought through it before.  First off, here’s the list (the third column is career ERA+, by baseball-reference, as a starting point):

Dallas Braden     05-09-2010 96  Oakland 4, Tampa Bay 0
Mark Buehrle      07-23-2009 121 Chicago 5, Tampa Bay 0
David Cone        07-18-1999 121 New York 6, Montreal 0
David Wells       05-17-1998 108 New York 4, Minnesota 0
Kenny Rogers      07-28-1994 108 Texas 4, California 0
Mike Witt         09-30-1984 105 California 1, Texas 0
Len Barker        05-15-1981 94  Cleveland 3, Toronto 0
Catfish Hunter    05-08-1968 105 Oakland 4, Minnesota 0
Don Larsen        10-08-1956 99  New York 2, Brooklyn 0*
Charlie Robertson 04-30-1922 90  Chicago 2, Detroit 0
Addie Joss        10-02-1908 142 Cleveland 1, Chicago 0
Cy Young          05-05-1904 138 Boston 3, Philadelphia 0
Roy Halladay      05-29-2010 136 Philadelphia 1, Florida 0
Randy Johnson     05-18-2004 136 Arizona 2, Atlanta 0
Dennis Martinez   07-28-1991 106 Montreal 2, Los Angeles 0
Tom Browning      09-16-1988 98  Cincinnati 1, Los Angeles 0
Sandy Koufax      09-09-1965 131 Los Angeles 1, Chicago 0
Jim Bunning       06-21-1964 114 Philadelphia 6, New York 0
Monte Ward        06-17-1880 119 Providence 5, Buffalo 0
Lee Richmond      06-12-1880 94  Worcester 1, Cleveland 0

So the only pitchers to throw a perfect game with career ERAs below average are: Braden, Barker, Larsen, Robertson, Browning, and Richmond.

Richmond played a LONG time ago, before the modern era when there were things like a strike zone and 4-ball walks. Also, in the season he threw a perfect game, he pitched 590 innings. I’m going to exclude him because I don’t really know what to do with him, and we can say worst perfect game pitcher in the modern era.

Because it is really difficult to compare counting stats across eras (Braden is active, Barker is the 70s, Larsen is the 50s, Browning is the 80s, and Robertson is the 20s), I’m going to see if WAR can help.

Braden    3.2 WAR in 4 seasons  1.0 WAR in his perfect game season
Barker    12.6 / 11             2.3
Larsen    10.9 / 14             2.6
Browning  19.5 / 12             2.8
Robertson 3.2 / 8               3.6

From this, it looks clear to me that Browning is safe since he averaged nearly 2 WAR/season, and Barker is safe as the only other pitcher over 1. That leaves Braden, Larsen, and Robertson.

Robertson broke into the league in 1922 as a 26 year old and put up two great seasons. After that he was garbage for five more before retiring. Larsen broke in in 1953 and was good, but not great, for four years. After that, he had two more good years in the other 10. Braden broke in in 2007, and was terrible (6.72 ERA in 72 IP). He didn’t have a good year until 2009, and has been fine so far this year.

I don’t think the choice is Robertson, since his peak was quite high. For my money I would probably pick Larsen, who was blah for a long time over Braden, but it’s close. Larsen also isn’t on everyone’s list because his perfect game was in the post season.

30 comments to Is Braden the worst pitcher with a perfect game?

  • nevermoor

    Thoughts you FKers?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  • FreeSeatUpgrade

    I very distinctly remember being told in ‘81 that Len Barker had thrown a perfecto, and saying “Len Barker? He sucks!”

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    nevermoor
      up

    He never sucked like Braden sucked in 2007.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    andeux
      up

    That’s a little unfair to Braden given that in 2007
    a) He was a rookie with a weak draft/scouting pedigree who got promoted after all of 11 starts in AAA
    b) His peripherals were actually not so bad (4.50 FIP vs. 6.72 ERA)
    Since then, he has 300 innings of being consistently (a bit) above average.

    When Barker (who, looking at his stats and age was also probably brought up a bit prematurely) threw his, he had about 500 below-average innings under his belt.

    TINSTAAFK
    nevermoor
      up

    I’m not seeing it.

    On Braden: His ERA was garbage, and his xFIP was 4.94. He walked over 3 per 9.

    On the comparison: Barker had exactly one season with a FIP > 4.5 until the last two years of his career. His next highest FIP was 3.52.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    andeux
      up

    He walked over 3 per 9.
    ??
    League average is 3.3 BB/9. Braden has always been better than that, and has also gotten better each year.
    Barker had been worse than that for 5 straight years at the time of his perfect game.

    It’s fair to point out that I used a bit of a double standard by citing Braden’s FIP for 2007 to argue that he was not as bad as you say, but using Barker’s actual ERA to classify him as below average. But you are doing the same in the reverse direction: Fangraphs doesn’t compute xFIP for the 70s and 80s, but if you want to use that stat as a basis for comparison, what do you suppose it would say about Barker in 1979 (4.92 ERA, 3.52 FIP, 6.09 K/9 vs. 4.59 BB/9)?

    TINSTAAFK
    nevermoor
      up

    I’m saying if we stick to FIP, Braden’s 4.50 is at least 0.98 worse than all but one of Barker’s first 9 seasons.

    I’m also saying that FIP is probably making Braden’s 2007 look less shitty than it was.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    andeux
      up

    FIP makes Barker look less shitty than he was almost every year of his career.

    TINSTAAFK
    nevermoor
      up

    Maybe his defense sucked. That would, after all, be the point of FIP

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    mikeA
      up

    ERA is probably better than FIP in a huge sample like a whole career.

    See you in the Value Deck
    nevermoor
      up

    Why?

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  • ptbnl

    Bunning because he’s an ass?

    If this is His will, He is a son of a bitch.
    FreeSeatUpgrade
      up

    But an ass every fourth day without fail. And also, being a member of the 1964 Phillies surely warped him for life.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
  • mikeA

    Buehrle, judging by his name, is the wurst pitcher with a perfect game.

    See you in the Value Deck
  • mikeA

    Photo from Addie Joss’s wikipedia page:

    See you in the Value Deck
    nevermoor
      up

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    Poppy
      up

    How long had he been dead at the time of that photo?

    sorry but i have no suits. i dont think anyone ever did.
    ptbnl
      up

    Zombie pitchers – you have to beat them to death with a baseball bat.

    If this is His will, He is a son of a bitch.
    monkeyball
      up

    It’s simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group.
  • nevermoor

    Another observation:

    I’m surprised that most of the modern perfect games are in the AL, where you’d expect it to be harder given the DH.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    ptbnl
      up

    Indeed – and the AL/NL discrepancy is biggest *after* the introduction of the DH.

    Pre-1900: N/A – 2
    Pre-WWII: 3 – 0

    to 1969: 2 – 2 (mound lowered)
    to 1973: 0 – 0 (DH)
    to 2010: 7 – 4

    If this is His will, He is a son of a bitch.
  • FreeSeatUpgrade

    Crazy stat I heard after Halladay’s perfect game (I hope it’s true): there have now been six perfectos in which the final score was 1-0. In all six, the run was unearned.

    "Kraut will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no kraut."
    monkeyball
      up

    I want lunar and astrological charts for all the perfectos.

    It’s simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group.
    nevermoor
      up

    Six indeed (I have the scores on my post)

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
    ptbnl
      up

    True … no earned runs.

    09-30-1984: California 1, Texas 0 (1b, pb, go, fc)
    10-02-1908: Cleveland 1, Chicago 0
    (looks like a hit, a steal and an e3 were involved)
    05-29-2010: Philadelphia 1, Florida 0 (1b, e8)
    09-16-1988: Cincinnati 1, Los Angeles 0 (2b, 1b/e5)
    09-09-1965: Los Angeles 1, Chicago 0 (bb, sac, sb/e2)
    06-12-1880: Worcester 1, Cleveland 0 (likely a hit and an e4 at least)

    If this is His will, He is a son of a bitch.
    nevermoor
      up

    OH. Totally missed that part.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"
  • nanotrebuchet

    Armando Galarraga Nevermind.

    monkeyball
      up

    Harvey Haddix Nevermind.

    It’s simply impossible for me to ‘belong’ to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group.
    nanotrebuchet
      up

    Nah, Haddix was a pretty good pitcher over a long career.

    nevermoor
      up

    Right. That would have made this easier.

    "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want"

You must be logged in to post a comment.